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Our Emperor is false?... ::Crossovers:: by guywiththesuitcase Our Emperor is false?... ::Crossovers:: by guywiththesuitcase
"Well YOUR Emperor is a corpse..."

Made in Garrys mod, as a request from :iconfoggygolem:

Enjoy. :)
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InfiniteRespect Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That bolt wouldn't even SCRATCH a Marine's power armour. That armour can tank CANNON SHOTS, 125MM NO LESS, and come out fine!
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flashn00b Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014
Ehh, nobody's gonna miss an ultramarine.

Now if it were a Black Templar however...
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Gustauve-Drakenhime Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
LOL, well, now you've just pissed him off!

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guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
ye
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gyrobot Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014
I really like your versus fanart.
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guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
thankly
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013
You can't exactly expect to see such things in a movie, especialy a movie for all ages.(besides even the prequels lacked the CGI to make it look good) That's why the novels are the best sources of 'realism' because you can use your brain and imagination with little plot 'shields'.

And the video i posted also has good cannon proof of blaster capabilities.The only reason why Stormtroopers are not charred meat or slag is because of the advanced armour.
Blasters can desintegrate even some more advanced alloys and materials,blast large holes in concrete and stone and completely desintegrate an unarmoured or primitively armoured enemy (such as IG troops).

It took 36 shots for a Tau pulse rifle to penetrate the front armour of a Chimera and kill the driver in the Taros Campaign.It would take about 10 with a Blaster given the Imperium does not posses advanced materials or conductive and dispersive ones.

If we are to compare a Storm Trooper (IG) to a Storm Trooper (SW) it is instantly easy to spot that the Grunts of SW have better equipment than the Elites of the Imperial guard.

SW ships have around 3 000Gs acceleration while the fastest IoM ship has 7Gs at best.As per the Siege of Vraks it took weeks for a convoy to reach Vraks Prime.If the ships weren't denfeding the transports it would take still them at least hours (and this would be if so if they were straining the reactors and engines to the limit) as the Comander of the fleet was waithing for the attacking Chaos ships to get in range for a few hours.

These are ratings of the kinetic power which is easiest to absorb by shields.Look at Tau weapons.They work pretty much the same as SW ones only the Charged Particle weapons do more more damage on an atomic level for obvious reasons.(Physics if you didn't get it)

Void shields do not stop missiles,torpedoes or craft such as bombers from passing through while if anything tried this on a Deflector shield it would instantly desintegrate.
And they fail at stopping more powerfull energy weapons.

Even if the shield is not breached, internal damage like fires and exploions still happen.

SW ships posses advanced targeting and jamming technology which renders the missiles and craft of the Imperium to target practise for the on-board computers and crewmen.While at the same time SW craft are faster,smaller and even shielded in most cases and can still pack a very nasty punch.

Gravity bombs or warheads will make your ship fall in on its' self, Anti-matter bombs would render large chunks of your ship gone in seconds (a single bomb is powerfull enough to level a large city).

Thermal Detonator bombs will do large damage in bombing runs.
Proton bombs would be devastating and let's not talk about the capital ship Torpedoes and Missiles.

Come to think of it a few Proton Torpedoes down the muzzle of a Macrocannon would do some serious internal damage.And taking out the Engines is sure to overload a few Plasma reactors while rendering the craft crippled and not able to maneuver to fire it's broadsides at the enemy ships.

The Reactor of a Star Destroyer is described as aminiature sun.And unlike the Plasma reactors of the Imperium's craft they are not highly unstable and can sustain massive energy drain and damage.

Honestly if i was to compare an Imperial Star Destroyer II to an Imperial craft from 40K i would put it at the capabilities of a Cruiser, not an Escort of the same or slightly larger size.

Jedi and Sith have powers that make many (not all) Psykers look like Younglings or Padawans.Illusions on a galactic scale,powers to make mutants and zombies and even techno-zombies,buffing and draining abilities,invisibility to both the naked eye and other Force users,pregocnition,enhanced physical and metal capabilities,telekinesis,mind reading,ability to see the future and/or past,climate control etc.
There are literally about 100 or even more Force powers.
Plus everyone being able to handle themselves in head on combat.

The Death Star would take out Terra form the other side of the Solar System.Besides the DS is mainly a terror weapon.
There are many more effective Superweapons like the Sun Crusher for example.
Or the standard Orbital Bombardment because the IoM does not posses Planetary Shields.Not even on Terra.
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Robot-Electro-Jones Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013
Wait, did you just claim that your standard blaster has more power behind it than Tau pulse rifles? Pardon me while I laugh at you. Loudly. Very, very loudly.
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2013
Indeed.

Tau Pulse rifles fire plasma pulses via an induction field.

Blasters have 2 main components:Gas chamber filled with an Energy-rich gas (Tiabana gas most of the time) and a power cell.
A said ammount of gas is forced through a conversion enabler,where energy from the power cell excites the gas.The gas,now volatile,then passes through an actuating module,where it is converted into a particle beam,focused through a prismatic crystal or some other device, and emerges from the barrel's emmiter nozzle as a thin bolt of glowing energy.

Blaster bolts themselves carry no heat.But their displacement of matter produces kinetic energy that causes heat.The atmosphere is superheated by bolts' passage;materials struck by a bolt deform and fuse; and liquids inside physical bodies instantly change state into steam,expanding and doing terrible damage to surounding tissiue.

(Taken from The Essential Guide to Warfare)


And if you haven't seen this watch it.It makes a lot of sense and with cannon proof of the things blasters can do.
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tortorkins Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2015
not try to be that one guy but lets all face it the tau are a bunch of bitches
but every thing you say above is true
ps. Go Baneblades. Go crush all. Go IG
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Robot-Electro-Jones Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2013
Yes, I know how blasters work. This proves nothing.
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2014
Blasters are stated to handle Ceramics and lower level metals and alloys with little to no ressistance.

P.S.You know any good novel about Tau or Necrons?
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40kwarlord Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014  Professional General Artist
I think the blaster is the star wars equivalent of a lasgun.
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2014
Blasters fire Charged Particle Beams that destroy atomic bonds, create massive kinetic energy and superheat on impact.Plus they travel at near the speed of light.
A Lasgun just fires a laser that makes a small explosion of heat on impact.Although the shots should travel at light speed which is a little faster.
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billyboyjennings Featured By Owner May 28, 2014
Total nonsense. Blasters do NOT move anywhere near the speed of light. They barely move faster than bullets fired from modern day guns. There are dozens of examples from the films that prove this.

Also: 
imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img71…

So much for your super blasters....

Take your non-canon EU nonsense elsewhere.
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ak47pwner Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013
You posted this under the wrong section, you didn't post this as a "reply" to Wyzilla. 
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013
I think he's blocked me or something.

I don't care still posted it so people would see.
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:iconguywiththesuitcase:
guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Again with this? I told you Star Borez is nothing but a B-rate movie. There's no need for these walls of texts.

I could care less about the science of Star Whores because I don't enjoy the franchise. It's boring and bland.
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013
If you don't care then don't look jackass
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guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
It shows up in my message feed, genius.

I read it because I thought you might have said something interesting. Clearly a mistake on my part.
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spicy-baconroll Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013
looks like the clones got lucky rolls, the space marine on the other hand needs a Mulligan xD 
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013
a shot to the face from a blaster is a death sentence even to a Space Marine a standard blaster can penetrate 0.5m of Ferroconcrete used to make reinforced bunkers
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Wyzilla Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
No, it wouldn't. Astartes have tanked shots from lasgun (which is an equal to standard military blasters) to the face without any protection besides their bare skin. At best, that shot would simply scatter their auspex and vox and cause the Astartes to lose balance before he immediately recovered and blew both of them down with a shot from his bolter.
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
Standard Blaster pistols tear off large chunks of Ferroconcrete, what do you think a blaster carbine or rifle would do.

Blasters are many times more powerfull than Lasguns.


Also if you didn't know blasters fire Charged Particle Beams.Laser weapons are considered relics in Star Wars.

Blaster Cannons are more powerfull than bolters and a Laser cannon shot or two would melt the Space Marine to slag.Turbolaser would just be a major overkill.

Or would you like to prove how energy weapons that have the heat of plasma,the kinetic energy to send a human flying a few feet back and the energized particles that destroy matter on an atomic scale would not simply desintegrate the head of an Astartes even with a helmet (not that it would do anything at all to stop a direct blaster bolt).

In a war between Star Wars and the Imperium the IoM is rape-stomped by superior technology,numbers,production and ships.
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Wyzilla Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
Yet I could also show you a multitude of clips where a blaster fails to even blow a limb off, minimally damage metal armor (that has never been shown to be impressive), even giving Leia a minor wound. As for lasguns, they tool blow through Warhammer's version of ferrocrete, blast holes in metal, and blow down brick walls- all while failing to kill Astartes with a point-blank shot to their naked face. And if you're going to use the hilarious high end yields for Star Wars (which are largely unsupported and there is a far greater amount of pathetic feats)- the crazy occurrences in W40K like Astartes with FTL reaction speeds that dodge physical laser bolts and put Jedi to shame. And bolters are vastly superior to blasters- as is nearly every W40K weapon.
(Also, simply because they stopped using lasers in favor of 'superior' particle weapons =/= W40K lasers.)

And lol wut? The ships of the Imperium are vastly superior to those of the Empire, which max out in the gigatons while W40K ships range from the terratons to the yottatons with nova cannons.

(The only thing somewhat impressive is the Eclipse and the Death Stars, which are still outclassed by the defenses of Terra. Jedi are also severely outclassed by psykers, with the greatest Sith and Jedi failing to equal figures such as Magnus or the Emperor- topping out at the rating of an Alpha Plus Psyker.)
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NicklausofKrieg Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013
hey, aren't you the same guy who said the same thing on one of my drawings?
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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013
Hmmm don't remember :P
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guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013  Hobbyist Artist

Dude, this picture here is simply a gift to a friend. Any science you have to mention from your Star Wars universe means nothing to me. It's nothing but a movie to me, and not that impressive of a film either.

 

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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013
so? does not mean i cant say what i want does it now?
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guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist Artist

I suppose not, but I won't argue the sciences of Warhammer to Star Wars. It's like comparing an apple to an orange.

 

Frankly, you come off as a bit rude, coming to the deviation, and instead of appreciating the actual artwork, you want to go on about "How a blaster can punch through a reinforced bunker and totally pwn space marines."

 

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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013
hey its good its nice to have a ,,SW beats 40K,, thing :P
i just wanted to say it to the ignorant people who thing that a helmet can protect from something as powerfull as that
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guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist Artist

See a statement like that isn't called for.

Neither Warhammer, Nor Star Wars is in anyway realistic. It's not based on any related science, so when you think you're educating people, or making a reasonable argument, in reality, you just make yourself look like an ass.

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slayer1968 Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013
lol
what is your problem?
im just saying what is on my mind
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Robot-Electro-Jones Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
The problem is that you're an annoying prick about it who can't debate worth shit. =3
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guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artist

No you're right. Perhaps I acted rashly.

You had every right to your opinion, I suppose.

Still, to say that someone who disagrees with you is ignorant, is rather rude.

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watcher25 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013

Oh ....!

 

 

ouch...

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REORC-HUNK Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
PLASMA TO THE FACEHOLE
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Sidhre Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013
its really awesome! ^^
but im surprised that the troopers wear the old armor. it makes them look more like "for the republic you fat tall son of a bitch!" than "for the emperor you fat tall son of a bitch!"
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guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Because I believe I goofed when chosing the models. I think I selected the Clonetroopers, not the Stormtroopers.
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Sidhre Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013
thats a goood point! :L but still it is a very impressive and nice work! :3
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RaptorJesus22 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2013
I like them both its just I hate how the space marines talk.
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guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Like, you don't like their accents? Or is it the stuff they say?
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RaptorJesus22 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2013
Accent and the stuff they say. (Now I feel like a jerk)
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guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Why do you feel like a jerk? Not everyone likes hearing "PRAYZ BE 2 DA EMPRAH" 24/7. Even I find them annoying at times.
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Grunzi Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013
Dual Wielding:
No matter what you do, you will never be as badass as this guy.
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sirartsalot Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2013
YOU SHALL PAY FOR THIS HERESY, UNBELIEVERS!!

YOUR FALSE EMPEROR WILL BURN!!
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guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
The Inquisition, let's begin!

The Inquisition, look out, sin!
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sirartsalot Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013
YOU DARE TO SPEAK FOR THE INQUISITION?!

HERESY!
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guywiththesuitcase Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I know you're wishin'

That we'd go AWAAAAY!
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